It is true that comparatively few people attended the traditional Mass, but also true that it was growing strongly all the time. Summorum Pontificum was an ongoing great success (like the SSPX).
I in no way thought the TLM would overthrow the modern Mass, nor that people should be forced to attend any particular liturgy. I do not s…
It is true that comparatively few people attended the traditional Mass, but also true that it was growing strongly all the time. Summorum Pontificum was an ongoing great success (like the SSPX).
I in no way thought the TLM would overthrow the modern Mass, nor that people should be forced to attend any particular liturgy. I do not seem them an opposing forces and im wary of tribalism in the Church.
What I think is that the TLM will continue to grow (even despite efforts to kill it) and the modern Mass will continue to waste away, like the protestant liturgies it seeks to copy. And that is how change will occur, though it could take decades or centuries.
Its great news you guys had 7 ordinations this year. Our diocese is not so lucky and is now reduced to ordaining pensioners and increasingly relying on Conservative African missionary priests.
I once met a man in his 60s, retired from his career, who was training to become a Priest. He became a priest but is now already dead. And so this desperate stop gap will not buy the Church much time.
The modern mass, a direct import of protestant worship, is built on sand and is unquestionably a failure by any metric. In contrast it is almost amusing to see Francis think he can succeed in killing the TLM, where any number of protestant reformers and tyrants failed.
The fact that a Pope should savagely attack his own flock, is a great sign of how disorientatedand dysfunctional the modern Church is.
Countless martyrs went to their deaths for the sake of the TLM. Saint John Ogilvie was martyred in my own City. Who would ever go to their death for the sake of the Novus Ordo?
The modern Mass was not designed to copy Protestant liturgies, it was designed to make the liturgy more intelligible to the people. The Protestant liturgies were designed to deny the sacrificial nature of the Mass and transsubstantiation. Those are two extremely different things.
Countless martyrs are now going to their deaths for the sake of the Novus Ordo. Our bishop went to Nigeria last summer and assisted with confirmations because there were so many there, and yet over 5000 Christians have been murdered for their faith there in the last 10 years.
Hi Sue,
It is true that comparatively few people attended the traditional Mass, but also true that it was growing strongly all the time. Summorum Pontificum was an ongoing great success (like the SSPX).
I in no way thought the TLM would overthrow the modern Mass, nor that people should be forced to attend any particular liturgy. I do not seem them an opposing forces and im wary of tribalism in the Church.
What I think is that the TLM will continue to grow (even despite efforts to kill it) and the modern Mass will continue to waste away, like the protestant liturgies it seeks to copy. And that is how change will occur, though it could take decades or centuries.
Its great news you guys had 7 ordinations this year. Our diocese is not so lucky and is now reduced to ordaining pensioners and increasingly relying on Conservative African missionary priests.
I once met a man in his 60s, retired from his career, who was training to become a Priest. He became a priest but is now already dead. And so this desperate stop gap will not buy the Church much time.
The modern mass, a direct import of protestant worship, is built on sand and is unquestionably a failure by any metric. In contrast it is almost amusing to see Francis think he can succeed in killing the TLM, where any number of protestant reformers and tyrants failed.
The fact that a Pope should savagely attack his own flock, is a great sign of how disorientatedand dysfunctional the modern Church is.
Countless martyrs went to their deaths for the sake of the TLM. Saint John Ogilvie was martyred in my own City. Who would ever go to their death for the sake of the Novus Ordo?
The modern Mass was not designed to copy Protestant liturgies, it was designed to make the liturgy more intelligible to the people. The Protestant liturgies were designed to deny the sacrificial nature of the Mass and transsubstantiation. Those are two extremely different things.
Countless martyrs are now going to their deaths for the sake of the Novus Ordo. Our bishop went to Nigeria last summer and assisted with confirmations because there were so many there, and yet over 5000 Christians have been murdered for their faith there in the last 10 years.