One of the problems with AI is that it lies to you. I have read blog posts by left & right wing journalists who show AI attributes things to them they never wrote. In the comments section of one of these posts I was interested to read a classicist who asked a question in Latin about Cicero & received a Ciceronian quote in impeccable Ciceronian Latin.
The problem is that the actual Cicero never wrote what was attributed.
Wanted to make sure you were aware of the "English lyrics" version of that video you posted. Worth a watch if you want a chuckle. (Some perhaps NSFW language)
That song instantly gave off Eurovision vibes, and for good reason. From Fandom.com: "Dschinghis Khan is a German disco-pop group formed in 1979 with a sound akin to the group Boney M. They are best known for the disco hit Moskau. The group represented their home country at the Eurovision Song Contest 1979 in Jerusalem with the song of the same name, achieving 4th place overall."
But this gem comes from Wikipedia: "'Moskau' achieved enormous popularity in the Soviet Union. A 15-second clip of the song's performance was shown as a part of the New Year holiday lineup on the state-run TV, leading to the immediate dismissal of the network's director."
"Manic friendliness and total insensibility to social norms, let alone danger...." This also describes a great number of the best people (and all of the Golden Retrievers) that I've ever known. If I were you, J.D., I'd be proud to have it as my epitaph.
Would you give JD any clue of what he was walking into at the Prince? Or are you hoping for a "Man Who Knew Too Little" kind of outcome where JD derails the Russian Mafia's entire operation?
> and I have been trying to think through why my reaction to it was visceral.
Part of it is "stolen valor". Let's set aside the real problem of whether AI gets things wrong, and let's imagine the answers are all written by a team of graduate students who are avoiding working on their theses (we actually did impersonate a collection of fake AIs who were "trained" on famous persons, when I was in school avoiding working on my thesis, lest this seem implausible) and that they get everything right and stay in character really well.
If the website owners say basically "we wanted something that was recognizably Catholic" (as opposed to Qwerty from Veggie Tales, which should be anyone's first option for a Scripture-quoting computer), the next question is: why? *why* want it to be recognizably Catholic? Would a cartoonish little girl in a First Communion dress and veil do, or is it supposed to be someone that you by default look up to, and by default respect, and by default trust?
To dig deeper: why stop at a sort of black star trek uniform and Roman collar? - why not have a sprite (I am dropping the word "avatar" for etymological reasons and using a neutral computer-game-writing term) that is recognizably an approved apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary? People would really look up to, respect, and trust that, right?
When we were being sarcastic and belittling in grad school we would say "CITATION NEEDED" (sometimes with a photo of an appropriate car (Citation) or airplane (Citation)) and the best way to earn trust is not through cosplay which *uses someone else's earned trust*,, but rather to have citations to reference material that is easily accessible.
"When I got home, I dug into the corporate registration and pulled the company filings, because there’s something deeply weird and wrong with me that I can’t control." ED. in a nutshell. It's why we love you - - and also the bit about sending JD in? Also 100 percent on brand.
While the quest to ordain women in the Catholic Church has not been successful it has indeed succeeded in drawing women into the sacramental life of the Church. They are now Lectors and acolytes, extraordinary ministers , engaged in catechisms and faith formation, lead parish councils , youth groups and other ministries and offer spiritual guidance and support to others .While these roles do not involve sacramental ordination, they reflect a growing recognition of women’s gifts and contributions within the Church. Others may be able to say what other roles they might occupy short of ordination. I applaud all of their initiatives without which they would indeed be marginalized in the life of the Church. Their dedication, wisdom, and service enrich the Church’s spiritual tapestry where all are valued .
And while women have stepped in to the sacramental life of the church, it seems that men have stepped even further back. . . In my small observations, when girls start to be altar servers, boys quit. And so maybe it is a part of the decline in priestly vocations. Boys often are drawn to the priesthood through their service on the altar and their interactions with the priests there. Just my anecdotal observation, coming from a diocese with only male altar servers and pretty good numbers of seminarians and ordinations.
I have had the same observation over the past 35 years at many parishes. When I became aware of it, I no longer allowed my daughters to be altar servers and I required my sons to be altar servers. One of my daughters is now a religious sister because she was called. I am uncomfortable with people who object that women shouldn’t join religious orders because “they have no power”.
Respectfully, what draws this woman further into the sacramental life of the church is the graces dispensed through obedience to that very Church. Only once in my life did I think I ought to be able to “move up” in the Church, and I was soundly and charitably brought to the knowledge, by a humble religious, that I was entirely missing the point. I don’t participate in the life of the Church because lector is as close as I can get to ordination nor have I been motivated to participate by the notion that the Church has come to love my womanhood and value it more by seeing some of its members push for something that is absolutely antithetical to the nature of that same Church. The grace to participate flows from obedience to the living Body of Christ, not from an insight born of insistence that a feminine shaped peg belongs in a masculine shaped hole. If I’ve misunderstood your point, I apologize.
You did not misunderstand me. You have successfully found a role within the Church which gives you a sense of purpose and belonging. Not all women have been able to do that. When any organization confers power to males while excluding females, it naturally raises questions.. The Church holds that by reason of the Apostolic Tradition it has no authority to confer priestly ordination on women. The Church does not see the more recent equalization of roles within the larger society as a sign the Holy Spirit wants change. Perhaps the Church could have done a better job of sooner opening the positions women now occupy , actively attacking clericalism and de emphasizing the ministerial aspects of the Church both of which create the sense of disproportionality and inequality. Pope Francis has emphasized that while ordained ministry (the Petrine principle) is essential, there is another theological dimension—the Marian principle—that reflects the dignity and role of women in the Church. The Church is not solely defined by its ministerial dimension; it encompasses the entire people of God. Developing a robust theology around the Marian principle is crucial. And in my view the administrative aspects of the Church is a place where the gifts of women should be expanded.
Catechesis of children is a very traditional female role and absolutely has nothing to do with radical feminist crusade for female "ordination." We don't need female altar boys or EMHCs of either sex. Fair to say that the campaign to put women into male and clerical roles has not been successful at doing anything we actually needed.
Pope Francis like to smell of sheep .. when doing Pastoral care of vulnerable lambs and Preganant Sheep who are lost.. or just could not follow..
However when he counsels and encourages those in Viticulture Burgundy Fatiam Champagne Chablis as to Vinedressing and "best wine to be served last in their Ministry, he is not speaking as Peter or David the King but John Evangelisto, whose report of theFirst Sign of Glory says "The Mother of Jesus was there" At That Wedding at Cana, The First Apostles did come and see and "taste" the Glory that would shine best and brightest in the Hour of DARKEST DARKNESS a FRIDAY PASSOVER before the Sabbath -The MOTHER of Jesus was there and she knew the "Wine Cellar" was same building as "Bridal Chamber" ! St Tereva of Avila saw the same in her "INterior Castle" 50 days later 3000 had their taste of Vino Veritas - 3000 that smelled with "the fragrance of Libano" (Lebanon) The global outreach for the best of goods and services no PubLICK House or Mall can rival is those simple dwellings near The Sea of Galilee. There Highest Intelligence greater than Artificial Intelligence is the simple natural intelligence of folks who thrived and survived ever since Cesarea Philppi came to be the "Gates of Hell"
At least the AI version was a “priest” (lol) rather than a “dre” (col). (Cry Out Loud, as in weep.)
But, actually having a ready online resource to find out Catholic things would be great - a kind of Cath-ipedia.
As for the fascinating investigative journo dive into the old pub, great work. And from my experience with some ‘spooks’, and given that you learned of it from a trusted local, his initial comment to you seems more than mere guess now!
Seems HM MI5 are too busy engaging in spying on and prosecuting Tommy Robinsons and hetero-norms to counter real threats.
--> Oh.My.Goodness. "The Mystery of the British Prince" is one of the all-time hits of The Pillar Post missives. When y'all get around to publishing a book with a collection of the Best Of, this one's gotta be in it.
--> Ed: " I wasn’t going to just start taking pictures of the place, was I? They’d think I was a spook." .... He then proceeds to do spook-y things. And if you've, in fact, "rumbled" them, it'll probably be a degree or two (or ten) worse than embarrassing. We'll keep you in prayer.
--> "over the road" instead of "across the street". I can now add a new Briticism to my collection.
--> Great call back to last week's complaint (?) about JD's extroverted disposition. But, I bet you'd get a bit worried if suddenly The British Prince decided to hold a lock-in, and you didn't see JD ambling out by 1 am.
One of the problems with AI is that it lies to you. I have read blog posts by left & right wing journalists who show AI attributes things to them they never wrote. In the comments section of one of these posts I was interested to read a classicist who asked a question in Latin about Cicero & received a Ciceronian quote in impeccable Ciceronian Latin.
The problem is that the actual Cicero never wrote what was attributed.
Perhaps it is best to hang on to the bookcase...
Wanted to make sure you were aware of the "English lyrics" version of that video you posted. Worth a watch if you want a chuckle. (Some perhaps NSFW language)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFUloAg1iXk
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! That was fabulous.
That song instantly gave off Eurovision vibes, and for good reason. From Fandom.com: "Dschinghis Khan is a German disco-pop group formed in 1979 with a sound akin to the group Boney M. They are best known for the disco hit Moskau. The group represented their home country at the Eurovision Song Contest 1979 in Jerusalem with the song of the same name, achieving 4th place overall."
But this gem comes from Wikipedia: "'Moskau' achieved enormous popularity in the Soviet Union. A 15-second clip of the song's performance was shown as a part of the New Year holiday lineup on the state-run TV, leading to the immediate dismissal of the network's director."
Nyet! No fun allowed.
Here is video of that Eurovision performance.
(How they came in only 4th in that contest is a mystery for the ages.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE2Z6eTOIRk
Is this the sort of thing you're looking for: https://www.iuscangreg.it/diritto_anteriore.php
or: www.iuscangreg.it
"Manic friendliness and total insensibility to social norms, let alone danger...." This also describes a great number of the best people (and all of the Golden Retrievers) that I've ever known. If I were you, J.D., I'd be proud to have it as my epitaph.
Also, that quote seems like a fun but broadly accurate way to describe the Apostles, post-Pentecost.
That describe me so well! I like to attribute it to my ADHD brain.
The most accurate reporting the Pillar has ever done is describing the stretch of Philadelphia and New Jersey as an “armpit.”
Would you give JD any clue of what he was walking into at the Prince? Or are you hoping for a "Man Who Knew Too Little" kind of outcome where JD derails the Russian Mafia's entire operation?
That's a movie I'd love to watch, with JD playing himself.
Seeing the word ‘boozer’ in a respectable news outlet filled me with so much glee. I hope to see mardy, mither and ginnel in the future.
> and I have been trying to think through why my reaction to it was visceral.
Part of it is "stolen valor". Let's set aside the real problem of whether AI gets things wrong, and let's imagine the answers are all written by a team of graduate students who are avoiding working on their theses (we actually did impersonate a collection of fake AIs who were "trained" on famous persons, when I was in school avoiding working on my thesis, lest this seem implausible) and that they get everything right and stay in character really well.
If the website owners say basically "we wanted something that was recognizably Catholic" (as opposed to Qwerty from Veggie Tales, which should be anyone's first option for a Scripture-quoting computer), the next question is: why? *why* want it to be recognizably Catholic? Would a cartoonish little girl in a First Communion dress and veil do, or is it supposed to be someone that you by default look up to, and by default respect, and by default trust?
To dig deeper: why stop at a sort of black star trek uniform and Roman collar? - why not have a sprite (I am dropping the word "avatar" for etymological reasons and using a neutral computer-game-writing term) that is recognizably an approved apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary? People would really look up to, respect, and trust that, right?
When we were being sarcastic and belittling in grad school we would say "CITATION NEEDED" (sometimes with a photo of an appropriate car (Citation) or airplane (Citation)) and the best way to earn trust is not through cosplay which *uses someone else's earned trust*,, but rather to have citations to reference material that is easily accessible.
"When I got home, I dug into the corporate registration and pulled the company filings, because there’s something deeply weird and wrong with me that I can’t control." ED. in a nutshell. It's why we love you - - and also the bit about sending JD in? Also 100 percent on brand.
Amen.
While the quest to ordain women in the Catholic Church has not been successful it has indeed succeeded in drawing women into the sacramental life of the Church. They are now Lectors and acolytes, extraordinary ministers , engaged in catechisms and faith formation, lead parish councils , youth groups and other ministries and offer spiritual guidance and support to others .While these roles do not involve sacramental ordination, they reflect a growing recognition of women’s gifts and contributions within the Church. Others may be able to say what other roles they might occupy short of ordination. I applaud all of their initiatives without which they would indeed be marginalized in the life of the Church. Their dedication, wisdom, and service enrich the Church’s spiritual tapestry where all are valued .
And while women have stepped in to the sacramental life of the church, it seems that men have stepped even further back. . . In my small observations, when girls start to be altar servers, boys quit. And so maybe it is a part of the decline in priestly vocations. Boys often are drawn to the priesthood through their service on the altar and their interactions with the priests there. Just my anecdotal observation, coming from a diocese with only male altar servers and pretty good numbers of seminarians and ordinations.
I have had the same observation over the past 35 years at many parishes. When I became aware of it, I no longer allowed my daughters to be altar servers and I required my sons to be altar servers. One of my daughters is now a religious sister because she was called. I am uncomfortable with people who object that women shouldn’t join religious orders because “they have no power”.
Respectfully, what draws this woman further into the sacramental life of the church is the graces dispensed through obedience to that very Church. Only once in my life did I think I ought to be able to “move up” in the Church, and I was soundly and charitably brought to the knowledge, by a humble religious, that I was entirely missing the point. I don’t participate in the life of the Church because lector is as close as I can get to ordination nor have I been motivated to participate by the notion that the Church has come to love my womanhood and value it more by seeing some of its members push for something that is absolutely antithetical to the nature of that same Church. The grace to participate flows from obedience to the living Body of Christ, not from an insight born of insistence that a feminine shaped peg belongs in a masculine shaped hole. If I’ve misunderstood your point, I apologize.
You did not misunderstand me. You have successfully found a role within the Church which gives you a sense of purpose and belonging. Not all women have been able to do that. When any organization confers power to males while excluding females, it naturally raises questions.. The Church holds that by reason of the Apostolic Tradition it has no authority to confer priestly ordination on women. The Church does not see the more recent equalization of roles within the larger society as a sign the Holy Spirit wants change. Perhaps the Church could have done a better job of sooner opening the positions women now occupy , actively attacking clericalism and de emphasizing the ministerial aspects of the Church both of which create the sense of disproportionality and inequality. Pope Francis has emphasized that while ordained ministry (the Petrine principle) is essential, there is another theological dimension—the Marian principle—that reflects the dignity and role of women in the Church. The Church is not solely defined by its ministerial dimension; it encompasses the entire people of God. Developing a robust theology around the Marian principle is crucial. And in my view the administrative aspects of the Church is a place where the gifts of women should be expanded.
We were doing all those things 40 years ago.
Catechesis of children is a very traditional female role and absolutely has nothing to do with radical feminist crusade for female "ordination." We don't need female altar boys or EMHCs of either sex. Fair to say that the campaign to put women into male and clerical roles has not been successful at doing anything we actually needed.
Pope Francis like to smell of sheep .. when doing Pastoral care of vulnerable lambs and Preganant Sheep who are lost.. or just could not follow..
However when he counsels and encourages those in Viticulture Burgundy Fatiam Champagne Chablis as to Vinedressing and "best wine to be served last in their Ministry, he is not speaking as Peter or David the King but John Evangelisto, whose report of theFirst Sign of Glory says "The Mother of Jesus was there" At That Wedding at Cana, The First Apostles did come and see and "taste" the Glory that would shine best and brightest in the Hour of DARKEST DARKNESS a FRIDAY PASSOVER before the Sabbath -The MOTHER of Jesus was there and she knew the "Wine Cellar" was same building as "Bridal Chamber" ! St Tereva of Avila saw the same in her "INterior Castle" 50 days later 3000 had their taste of Vino Veritas - 3000 that smelled with "the fragrance of Libano" (Lebanon) The global outreach for the best of goods and services no PubLICK House or Mall can rival is those simple dwellings near The Sea of Galilee. There Highest Intelligence greater than Artificial Intelligence is the simple natural intelligence of folks who thrived and survived ever since Cesarea Philppi came to be the "Gates of Hell"
At least the AI version was a “priest” (lol) rather than a “dre” (col). (Cry Out Loud, as in weep.)
But, actually having a ready online resource to find out Catholic things would be great - a kind of Cath-ipedia.
As for the fascinating investigative journo dive into the old pub, great work. And from my experience with some ‘spooks’, and given that you learned of it from a trusted local, his initial comment to you seems more than mere guess now!
Seems HM MI5 are too busy engaging in spying on and prosecuting Tommy Robinsons and hetero-norms to counter real threats.
That was the most perfect ending to a great little rabbit hole. JD making friends with the Russian mob by knocking on their door has to happen now.
--> Oh.My.Goodness. "The Mystery of the British Prince" is one of the all-time hits of The Pillar Post missives. When y'all get around to publishing a book with a collection of the Best Of, this one's gotta be in it.
--> Ed: " I wasn’t going to just start taking pictures of the place, was I? They’d think I was a spook." .... He then proceeds to do spook-y things. And if you've, in fact, "rumbled" them, it'll probably be a degree or two (or ten) worse than embarrassing. We'll keep you in prayer.
--> "over the road" instead of "across the street". I can now add a new Briticism to my collection.
--> Great call back to last week's complaint (?) about JD's extroverted disposition. But, I bet you'd get a bit worried if suddenly The British Prince decided to hold a lock-in, and you didn't see JD ambling out by 1 am.
Huh? "To be sure, while I remain convinced there’s a good chance the whole AI boom is likely to end somewhere dark and nasty for humanity,..."
Let me ask plainly, were you against this whole idea of the Internet also?