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Chris Eich's avatar

What on earth are you talking about?

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Joe Witkowski's avatar

All of these тАЬgreat personal prelaturesтАЭ approved by my fellow Pole and Saint. All in the interest of gold and power. One of Revelation 18тАЩs тАЬmerchantsтАЭ. Also surrounded by Curial merchants. His Team Escriva saved themselves from suppression by hiding Charles John McCloskey III, S.T.D until he kicked off 2 years ago. The blinding light of sainthood obscures a lot of the damage JP тАЬthe greatтАЭ did. But hey, do your saints church, the laity will always be around to pay for and do the clean-up.

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Sue Korlan's avatar

Do you have evidence that these organizations were approved for the sake of gold and power? A person can be holy and still mistaken about other people. From what I read when I looked for McCloskey online was that as soon as Opus Dei had evidence he was an abuser the order moved to restrict his contact with women. As opposed to what was done with, for instance, Rupnik.

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Joe Witkowski's avatar

Read the financial scheming behind the looting of Spanish banks by Opus Dei in Gareth GoreтАЩs book. The additional Opus Dei bashing beyond the bank looting is over the top. But Escriva and his Spanish banking friends were a pot of gold for the Church. A pope who tapped into that ill gotten gain has to answer to the Messianic judge like the rest of us.

And please donтАЩt inundate me with ad hoc Opus Dei 108 page criticisms of GoreтАЩs sense of nuance and semantics about Opus DeiтАЩs тАЬlessons learnedтАЭ in creating an infinite web of off the books entities. (A) Rome had to be pretty stupid not to ask where the golden goose was hidden. (B) I knew Gore as a forensic financial journalist at Bloomberg and his coverage was fact-based and fair. Until Opus Dei puts their money where their mouth is and litigates against Simon and Schuster for libel, GoreтАЩs narrative on the Spanish bank looting stands for me. If it looks too good to be true, Holy Mother Church will take it and look the other way.

St. John Paul II, May God be merciful to you and all of us.

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Sue Korlan's avatar

I am a scholar of the Renaissance/Reformation, not modern history, so I wouldn't know about any of this, which is why I asked.

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