As always, I loved the episode. My favorite segment was the Donald Trump segment. The crazy nesting dolls of weddings, a look at the law, and all the cultural references had us both learning and laughing. I appreciated the look at TC but you did promise last week a look at the new Apostolic Letter on the Liturgy. And speaking of unfulfilled promises, JD I am deeply disappointed that you have to date failed to fulfill your end of the Vatican Trial bet which was that in the June 30th episode you would provide us with a limerick (naughty?) regarding the summary of the case to-date. As a reminder, you are obligated to do this because Ed was right and there have been substantial trial proceedings. As a long-time listener and monthly supporter, I do expect you to fulfill your bet, just as I would have expected Ed to fulfill his had you been right. I await said limerick. Thanks in advance and both of you keep up what you are doing.
Regarding the baptism of the first husband of Mrs. Ivana Trump (RIP), which is relevant for the analysis, it matters if it happened or not, but also, does it matter when did it happen ? For example, if it happened before their marriage ? Or at any point on his life ? I can't remember the last name of the ski instructor, so forgive me for the references. But what about if he was baptized later in life ? Doesn't that change the status of his marriage ?
The question is whether he was a baptized Catholic at any time prior to the attempt at marriage; in that case it would trivially be a failed attempt because of not following rules that are particular to Catholics; if neither party was Catholic then those rules do not apply. I hear on the news that Ivana herself was "secretly raised Catholic", however, which (if it included baptism) would mean that both her attempted marriage to the ski instructor *and* *also* her subsequent attempted marriage to Donald do not count since neither attempt followed those rules; since Donald is not a Catholic that means his second attempted marriage does count and he is not an eligible bachelor. This plot has got more twists than an Agatha Christie murder mystery.
It's important to note that there is no way Cardinal Roche promulgated his dubia without the approval of Pope Francis. While that doesn't change the legal authority of the dubia, it does shed light on Pope Francis' intentions. It's not Francis the reasonable writer of TC who wants to respect the ecclesiology of Vatican II and Roche the power hungry power hungry prelate willing to usurp the rightful authority of worldwide bishops. Rather the two are acting in unison with one another and are together undermining the ecclesiology of Vatican II in a supposed attempt to save it liturgically.
I must admit I was a little put off by the mentioning of The Bachelor, but the analysis of the marriages was absolute gold. It became better when the issue of Mr. Ski-instructor's baptismal situation came up. Brilliant!
In regard to the new Agatha Christie letter, it is not a matter of the "Extraordinary Form" or the "TLM" but a matter of it being... the Mass as it always has been. The people who signed the letter understand that the Mass, as offered for thousands of years, with its visual art, music, physical movements, and place in daily, weekly, annual, and the entire span of peoples' lives, is the underpinning of Western culture. These people appreciate those facts on an artist and cultural level, at least, and have an understanding of history to recognize what is happening is cultural suicide. Christians or not, they see this being done by people who either do not realize what they are doing/harming due to ignorance, do not care due to negligence, or actively hate the Church and the culture she created.
I thoroughly enjoyed the Donald Trump bachelor segment! Good stuff!
From the distinction between concubine and consort to the Miss Marples slips, the Trump segment was gold.
As always, I loved the episode. My favorite segment was the Donald Trump segment. The crazy nesting dolls of weddings, a look at the law, and all the cultural references had us both learning and laughing. I appreciated the look at TC but you did promise last week a look at the new Apostolic Letter on the Liturgy. And speaking of unfulfilled promises, JD I am deeply disappointed that you have to date failed to fulfill your end of the Vatican Trial bet which was that in the June 30th episode you would provide us with a limerick (naughty?) regarding the summary of the case to-date. As a reminder, you are obligated to do this because Ed was right and there have been substantial trial proceedings. As a long-time listener and monthly supporter, I do expect you to fulfill your bet, just as I would have expected Ed to fulfill his had you been right. I await said limerick. Thanks in advance and both of you keep up what you are doing.
Regarding the baptism of the first husband of Mrs. Ivana Trump (RIP), which is relevant for the analysis, it matters if it happened or not, but also, does it matter when did it happen ? For example, if it happened before their marriage ? Or at any point on his life ? I can't remember the last name of the ski instructor, so forgive me for the references. But what about if he was baptized later in life ? Doesn't that change the status of his marriage ?
If I'm not mistaken, baptism would affect whether or not the marriage was a sacramental one, but not necessarily its validity.
The question is whether he was a baptized Catholic at any time prior to the attempt at marriage; in that case it would trivially be a failed attempt because of not following rules that are particular to Catholics; if neither party was Catholic then those rules do not apply. I hear on the news that Ivana herself was "secretly raised Catholic", however, which (if it included baptism) would mean that both her attempted marriage to the ski instructor *and* *also* her subsequent attempted marriage to Donald do not count since neither attempt followed those rules; since Donald is not a Catholic that means his second attempted marriage does count and he is not an eligible bachelor. This plot has got more twists than an Agatha Christie murder mystery.
It's important to note that there is no way Cardinal Roche promulgated his dubia without the approval of Pope Francis. While that doesn't change the legal authority of the dubia, it does shed light on Pope Francis' intentions. It's not Francis the reasonable writer of TC who wants to respect the ecclesiology of Vatican II and Roche the power hungry power hungry prelate willing to usurp the rightful authority of worldwide bishops. Rather the two are acting in unison with one another and are together undermining the ecclesiology of Vatican II in a supposed attempt to save it liturgically.
I always enjoy hearing about JD’s favorite Roman hotel, [REDACTED].
I was thinking to myself while listening that it wasn't a safe assumption that because Ivana was born in communist Czechoslovakia she wasn't baptized.
Et voilà: https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/251829/ivana-trump-funeral
Looks like Donald Trump is not a bachelor, if I've remembered all the conditions correctly.
I must admit I was a little put off by the mentioning of The Bachelor, but the analysis of the marriages was absolute gold. It became better when the issue of Mr. Ski-instructor's baptismal situation came up. Brilliant!
In regard to the new Agatha Christie letter, it is not a matter of the "Extraordinary Form" or the "TLM" but a matter of it being... the Mass as it always has been. The people who signed the letter understand that the Mass, as offered for thousands of years, with its visual art, music, physical movements, and place in daily, weekly, annual, and the entire span of peoples' lives, is the underpinning of Western culture. These people appreciate those facts on an artist and cultural level, at least, and have an understanding of history to recognize what is happening is cultural suicide. Christians or not, they see this being done by people who either do not realize what they are doing/harming due to ignorance, do not care due to negligence, or actively hate the Church and the culture she created.