Yet more sedevacantist chaos. The late Michael Davies wrote an article in Christian Order around 1983 when he described the proliferation of these sects. (Copy on another site below)
At that time he claimed that there were four groups - one each in Spain, Italy, Canada and Brazil. Michael noted these groups' tendency to elect their own True Pope. So we might easily have four "Popes" anathemising one another.
Since then we have a guy who was elected Pope in a hotel in Assisi and Pope Pius XIII (aka Lucian Pulvermacher) who issued encyclicals from the wilds of Montana in the 1990s. He had a particular bee in his bonnet about how sinful it was to waste money on useless pets.
The stories about this cult would be riotously funny if it was not such a serious matter. My favourite is the account by two ex-members who claimed that the cult was ferociously anti-gay, but that many of its "priests" frequented a transvestite bar in Seville. So these breakaway nuns might soon be getting some very strange new novices, unless sanity prevails.
There is at least one relatively sane sede group (Novus Ordo Watch) who have not elected their own "Pope". They are content to heap well argued abuse on Pope Francis. But they can only counsel that we should wait for a resolution to the current mess to appear in God's good time. Which sounds like the theological equivalent of Mr Micawber.
Thanks for the news. Yes, we now have Michael II (aka Rogelio Martinez) replacing the first Pope Michael, aka the late Mr Bawden. There is nothing to stop thousands or even millions of "Popes" proliferating from pole to pole, apart from the problem of raising enough money to keep them all in a suitable style.
I do wonder when this monastery was last visitated, and who should have taken note of the current superior's behavior. There should have been signs that she was capable of such craziness.
The Church needs to get a warrant issued by a judge to force entry and physically remove that clown sede and take back what is rightfully hers. I see no difference in a man walking into a house and saying "I'm now the husband and father of this residence"
I think the first step is to have their order send in someone who is the new superior (and then the nun who is the outgoing superior refuses to let the incoming one in, and then we wonder "what happens next").
Legally, the monastery is probably owned by the order, and not by the Church. It might even be owned by the legal entity of that particular chapter of the Poor Clare order, I'm not familiar with how the Poor Clares work that. But generally speaking, the bishop does not own the property of all the religious orders operating in his diocese, any more than he owns the property of all the laypeople in his diocese.
What mechanism does the Church have to investigate cases like this under suspicion of mental abuse?
Thanks for reporting on this. Sad.
Yet more sedevacantist chaos. The late Michael Davies wrote an article in Christian Order around 1983 when he described the proliferation of these sects. (Copy on another site below)
At that time he claimed that there were four groups - one each in Spain, Italy, Canada and Brazil. Michael noted these groups' tendency to elect their own True Pope. So we might easily have four "Popes" anathemising one another.
https://isidore.co/misc/Res%20pro%20Deo/Pope%20St.%20Pius%20X%20&%E2%81%84or%20SSPX/The%20Angelus/HTMLs/720.html
Since then we have a guy who was elected Pope in a hotel in Assisi and Pope Pius XIII (aka Lucian Pulvermacher) who issued encyclicals from the wilds of Montana in the 1990s. He had a particular bee in his bonnet about how sinful it was to waste money on useless pets.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucian_Pulvermacher
But Pius XIII has been long dead. Whereas the Palmerians in Spain seem to be surviving and gaining recruits (willing or unwilling).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmarian_Christian_Church
The stories about this cult would be riotously funny if it was not such a serious matter. My favourite is the account by two ex-members who claimed that the cult was ferociously anti-gay, but that many of its "priests" frequented a transvestite bar in Seville. So these breakaway nuns might soon be getting some very strange new novices, unless sanity prevails.
There is at least one relatively sane sede group (Novus Ordo Watch) who have not elected their own "Pope". They are content to heap well argued abuse on Pope Francis. But they can only counsel that we should wait for a resolution to the current mess to appear in God's good time. Which sounds like the theological equivalent of Mr Micawber.
What about "Pope Michael" here in the States? Looking, I see he died recently and has been replaced by "Michael II", a Filipino.
Thanks for the news. Yes, we now have Michael II (aka Rogelio Martinez) replacing the first Pope Michael, aka the late Mr Bawden. There is nothing to stop thousands or even millions of "Popes" proliferating from pole to pole, apart from the problem of raising enough money to keep them all in a suitable style.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogelio_Martinez_(antipope)
Some errors regarding the use of quotation marks in this story.
I do wonder when this monastery was last visitated, and who should have taken note of the current superior's behavior. There should have been signs that she was capable of such craziness.
The Church needs to get a warrant issued by a judge to force entry and physically remove that clown sede and take back what is rightfully hers. I see no difference in a man walking into a house and saying "I'm now the husband and father of this residence"
I think the first step is to have their order send in someone who is the new superior (and then the nun who is the outgoing superior refuses to let the incoming one in, and then we wonder "what happens next").
Legally, the monastery is probably owned by the order, and not by the Church. It might even be owned by the legal entity of that particular chapter of the Poor Clare order, I'm not familiar with how the Poor Clares work that. But generally speaking, the bishop does not own the property of all the religious orders operating in his diocese, any more than he owns the property of all the laypeople in his diocese.