St. John Paul II did an equipollent Beatification of John Duns Scotus in 1993. His Cause was only introduced in the 19th century and was only declared Venerable in 1991, two yeaes before his beatification. Franciscans had always commemorated him as a Blessed, even before the equipolent beatification, because devotion to him and his teaching had been widespread, particularily his doctrine on the Immaculate Conception, used by Blessed Pope Pius IX to formally declare the dogma. Hopefully one day he will be properly canonized.
I had never heard of an opera called Dialogues des carmélites, but I do known the play by Georges Bernanos and the film, with Jeanne Moureau and Alida Valli, and I recommend both.
(For the 15th time I want to say that I find the choppy editorial style of the pillar's articles VERY difficult to follow).
Update:
I have just finished watching the movie which is as good as I remember it, even though the copy (it is available on YT) wasn't too good. Needs to be remastered.
I have also found the opera of which I have seen the touching closing scene. I will have to watch it from the start now.
Many movie theaters now feature "Fathom Events", which include live and pre recorded performances of the NYC Met Opera. Dialogues of the Carmelites has, surprisingly, appeared several times in recent years.
They were popular events in the college town i lived in in MA (music students were required to attend) but since I moved to FL I've never seen more than about 5 people in the theater :(
It would seem like Pope Francis is really bringing back the idea of equipollent canonization, as even before these latest 16, Pope Francis had previously equipollently canonized 7 saints: Sts. Angela of Foligno, Peter Faber, Jose de Anchieta, Marie de l' Incarnation, Francoise de Laval, Bartholomew of Braga, and Margaret of Castello. With these latest he has now made 23 equipollent canonizations.
I would love to see Julian of Norwich recognized via equipollent canonization; she is a favorite of mine and a patron of our youngest daughter. “All shall be well, and all shall be well, all manner of things shall be well.”
This is good news. Maybe if we wait a couple of hundred years Ven. Fulton Sheen could be canonized this way. But hopefully it will happen sooner rather than later.
As someone named Daniel, I know that St. Daniel the Prophet and the Three Children in the Furnace are commemorated on December 17 in many of the Eastern Churches, but I don't actually see them listed in the Roman Martyrology. Is there anyone who can find me a citation for their veneration on this date in the Latin Church?
Gotta say, this is the first time I've ever encountered this word "equipollent." Am I wrong that it basically describes the ordinary canonization process of the Church prior to the increased formalization of the process in the last few centuries (maybe after Trent)? The requirements of miracles and such is part of this relatively recent formalization.
Back in the day, being a martyr for the faith was sufficient, and such was the model of canonized sainthood. Gradually, public acclamation or official recognition of sanctity while still in this world was sufficient (e.g. Augustine, Aquinas, et al.). If I'm right, then what seems exceptional to us today has really been more the norm of the Church historically.
So... more evidence of Pope Francis' traditional leanings. *rimshot*
One interesting liturgical note on the Roman Martyrology: in the LOTH, it is proclaimed on the day of at the end of Lauds (theoretically). In the traditional Office, it's proclaimed for the NEXT DAY at Prime. The reason? It gave the sacristan time to set the Office and Mass for the next day.
St. John Paul II did an equipollent Beatification of John Duns Scotus in 1993. His Cause was only introduced in the 19th century and was only declared Venerable in 1991, two yeaes before his beatification. Franciscans had always commemorated him as a Blessed, even before the equipolent beatification, because devotion to him and his teaching had been widespread, particularily his doctrine on the Immaculate Conception, used by Blessed Pope Pius IX to formally declare the dogma. Hopefully one day he will be properly canonized.
It's an excellent question why Blessed John Duns Scotus is not canonized already and further, why he is not a Doctor of the Church.
I had never heard of an opera called Dialogues des carmélites, but I do known the play by Georges Bernanos and the film, with Jeanne Moureau and Alida Valli, and I recommend both.
(For the 15th time I want to say that I find the choppy editorial style of the pillar's articles VERY difficult to follow).
Update:
I have just finished watching the movie which is as good as I remember it, even though the copy (it is available on YT) wasn't too good. Needs to be remastered.
I have also found the opera of which I have seen the touching closing scene. I will have to watch it from the start now.
The Met Opera in NYC has staged Dialogues des Carmelites in the past.
Many movie theaters now feature "Fathom Events", which include live and pre recorded performances of the NYC Met Opera. Dialogues of the Carmelites has, surprisingly, appeared several times in recent years.
https://www.fathomevents.com/series/the-met-live-in-hd/
They were popular events in the college town i lived in in MA (music students were required to attend) but since I moved to FL I've never seen more than about 5 people in the theater :(
Opera de Lyon’s recording on Virgin Classics has a great cast under Kent Nagano’s direction. Although it’s out of print, you can snag a used copy.
It would seem like Pope Francis is really bringing back the idea of equipollent canonization, as even before these latest 16, Pope Francis had previously equipollently canonized 7 saints: Sts. Angela of Foligno, Peter Faber, Jose de Anchieta, Marie de l' Incarnation, Francoise de Laval, Bartholomew of Braga, and Margaret of Castello. With these latest he has now made 23 equipollent canonizations.
I would love to see Julian of Norwich recognized via equipollent canonization; she is a favorite of mine and a patron of our youngest daughter. “All shall be well, and all shall be well, all manner of things shall be well.”
This is good news. Maybe if we wait a couple of hundred years Ven. Fulton Sheen could be canonized this way. But hopefully it will happen sooner rather than later.
As someone named Daniel, I know that St. Daniel the Prophet and the Three Children in the Furnace are commemorated on December 17 in many of the Eastern Churches, but I don't actually see them listed in the Roman Martyrology. Is there anyone who can find me a citation for their veneration on this date in the Latin Church?
Gotta say, this is the first time I've ever encountered this word "equipollent." Am I wrong that it basically describes the ordinary canonization process of the Church prior to the increased formalization of the process in the last few centuries (maybe after Trent)? The requirements of miracles and such is part of this relatively recent formalization.
Back in the day, being a martyr for the faith was sufficient, and such was the model of canonized sainthood. Gradually, public acclamation or official recognition of sanctity while still in this world was sufficient (e.g. Augustine, Aquinas, et al.). If I'm right, then what seems exceptional to us today has really been more the norm of the Church historically.
So... more evidence of Pope Francis' traditional leanings. *rimshot*
One interesting liturgical note on the Roman Martyrology: in the LOTH, it is proclaimed on the day of at the end of Lauds (theoretically). In the traditional Office, it's proclaimed for the NEXT DAY at Prime. The reason? It gave the sacristan time to set the Office and Mass for the next day.
“Acclamation”, not “acclimation”.
Excellent explainer!