Is the Synod willing to give itself a self-inflicted gunshot wound by refusing ordinations, and people refuse to budge?
"Why can't they obey?"
Well yes, that's always the question, but the point remains: are you willing to torch communion over that, or find another way for them to prove their loyalty?
I think the answer is "no, they aren't", but they (and more importantly, Pope Francis) feel they can't "give in" because of the predent it sets. Yet the precedent of cutting off ordinations in the largest eparchy in that Church might probably be a dangerous precedent as well. And when your bluff is called, the climbdown looks even worse for you.
I'm a Latin who favors ad orientem. I don't like versus populum. Yet I also don't like a weaker more divided Church unless its absolutely necessary to draw a dividing line.
It reminds me of the time that I heard a podcaster facetiously listing what the rights of seminarians are ("the right to a Christian burial".) I can understand the impulse to fix the problem at its root in the rising generation but here in the US I think the parochial vicars have to more-or-less align with the style of the pastor and so it makes no sense to me to perhaps say "you have to promise to do this thing and then we'll ordain you and assign you to a parish under someone who is ready to die on the hill of (not to say exchange his soul for) not doing the thing, good luck have fun kids, I'm sure it will all work out through the magic of friendship".
Has "Look Closer" finally reappeared in a new format?
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So I guess the question is:
Is the Synod willing to give itself a self-inflicted gunshot wound by refusing ordinations, and people refuse to budge?
"Why can't they obey?"
Well yes, that's always the question, but the point remains: are you willing to torch communion over that, or find another way for them to prove their loyalty?
I think the answer is "no, they aren't", but they (and more importantly, Pope Francis) feel they can't "give in" because of the predent it sets. Yet the precedent of cutting off ordinations in the largest eparchy in that Church might probably be a dangerous precedent as well. And when your bluff is called, the climbdown looks even worse for you.
I'm a Latin who favors ad orientem. I don't like versus populum. Yet I also don't like a weaker more divided Church unless its absolutely necessary to draw a dividing line.
“…some of the candidates are considering alternative careers.” Don’t let these vocations lapse.
It reminds me of the time that I heard a podcaster facetiously listing what the rights of seminarians are ("the right to a Christian burial".) I can understand the impulse to fix the problem at its root in the rising generation but here in the US I think the parochial vicars have to more-or-less align with the style of the pastor and so it makes no sense to me to perhaps say "you have to promise to do this thing and then we'll ordain you and assign you to a parish under someone who is ready to die on the hill of (not to say exchange his soul for) not doing the thing, good luck have fun kids, I'm sure it will all work out through the magic of friendship".