Why would the vicar general attend someone else's therapy sessions and why would anyone agree to that? Isn't that a boundary issue? Seems bizarre to me.
Why would the vicar general attend someone else's therapy sessions and why would anyone agree to that? Isn't that a boundary issue? Seems bizarre to me.
I agree - a VG sitting in on therapy sessions is probably the most bizarre part of this story. Not only should the patient be thoroughly uncomfortable with that arrangement, but what therapist would be okay with that?
IтАЩm a therapist. IтАЩm not familiar with this state's laws and licensing requirements, but I am familiar with federal HIPAA laws and the codes of ethics that determine our licensing requirements. I can tell you in my state this would not in any way be a violation of law and/or licensing regulations, assuming all applicable disclosure authorizations and consents were signed. That being said, from a clinical standpoint it seems counterproductive. I donтАЩt think I would ever agree to it.
Thanks for that perspective. I'm an RN and we wouldn't ever be in the same situation where someone wanted to sit in like that, but it just seems odd. I agree that is sure seems counterproductive. Even if it were another licensed therapist a second opinion is great, but not from some guy across the room, they should be two individual consultations.
I would agree that the party in therapy can waive his privilege for a third party if he so chooses. What concerns me is that the payment for the sessions was contingent on the privilege being waived. If the patient was possibly vulnerable due to his issues this pressure seems quite unconscionable. Even if the patient was not vulnerable, this requirement seems fairly problematic. I would be a bit worried about my license if I was the clinician.
Sorry folks. This Dioceese has been messed up for a long time and it hurts. Our parishes in general do NOT welcome new or unfamiliar faces, donтАЩt listen to what the parish wantsтАж Example.. In Kokomo we have 2 parishes. St. Joan and St. Patricks. We USED to have a 6:30 Mass at atleat one parish meanwhile outside town 2 miles in the country we have the Monastesy of the Community of the Poor Clares. They also have a 6:30 Mass where the public is welcome. Our CURRENT Moderator came in and deemed there will be no 6:30 Mass except at the Poor Clares. A PERFECT example of the Dioceese letting the Priest here in Kokomo! It should be the Priest working around people not the other way aroundтАж especially when we have 4 Priests and 3 Deacons! When Ted was in Kokomo Moderating both parishes he drove St. Joan now to nubbs! We left in waves! That is Ted, either conform to my way or move on! I can say a lot more! Please pray for our Dioceese and Parishiners.
Why would the vicar general attend someone else's therapy sessions and why would anyone agree to that? Isn't that a boundary issue? Seems bizarre to me.
I agree - a VG sitting in on therapy sessions is probably the most bizarre part of this story. Not only should the patient be thoroughly uncomfortable with that arrangement, but what therapist would be okay with that?
Seems like the therapist's license should be revoked.
IтАЩm a therapist. IтАЩm not familiar with this state's laws and licensing requirements, but I am familiar with federal HIPAA laws and the codes of ethics that determine our licensing requirements. I can tell you in my state this would not in any way be a violation of law and/or licensing regulations, assuming all applicable disclosure authorizations and consents were signed. That being said, from a clinical standpoint it seems counterproductive. I donтАЩt think I would ever agree to it.
Thanks for that perspective. I'm an RN and we wouldn't ever be in the same situation where someone wanted to sit in like that, but it just seems odd. I agree that is sure seems counterproductive. Even if it were another licensed therapist a second opinion is great, but not from some guy across the room, they should be two individual consultations.
Totally agree as a therapist and RN
I was just getting ready to reply and then saw yours, Tony!
I would agree that the party in therapy can waive his privilege for a third party if he so chooses. What concerns me is that the payment for the sessions was contingent on the privilege being waived. If the patient was possibly vulnerable due to his issues this pressure seems quite unconscionable. Even if the patient was not vulnerable, this requirement seems fairly problematic. I would be a bit worried about my license if I was the clinician.
Sorry folks. This Dioceese has been messed up for a long time and it hurts. Our parishes in general do NOT welcome new or unfamiliar faces, donтАЩt listen to what the parish wantsтАж Example.. In Kokomo we have 2 parishes. St. Joan and St. Patricks. We USED to have a 6:30 Mass at atleat one parish meanwhile outside town 2 miles in the country we have the Monastesy of the Community of the Poor Clares. They also have a 6:30 Mass where the public is welcome. Our CURRENT Moderator came in and deemed there will be no 6:30 Mass except at the Poor Clares. A PERFECT example of the Dioceese letting the Priest here in Kokomo! It should be the Priest working around people not the other way aroundтАж especially when we have 4 Priests and 3 Deacons! When Ted was in Kokomo Moderating both parishes he drove St. Joan now to nubbs! We left in waves! That is Ted, either conform to my way or move on! I can say a lot more! Please pray for our Dioceese and Parishiners.