Don't take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot. That may be a problem the Vatican now has. They are saying "do this or face a schism" yet have not seem to have thought out what a schism would actually entail if 90% of the priests in the area refused compliance.
It appears there are increasing voices in the synod adopting the less insane…
Don't take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot. That may be a problem the Vatican now has. They are saying "do this or face a schism" yet have not seem to have thought out what a schism would actually entail if 90% of the priests in the area refused compliance.
It appears there are increasing voices in the synod adopting the less insane approach of not creating a schism just to show you are in control. Hopefully they win out, yet I think even if the Synod made a choice, it would not be enough for rome to back down, as Francis has invested far too much of his authority in the issue.
You can't give a hecklers veto to the papal magisterium. Previous popes were smart and humble enough not to give an opportunity for said hecklers veto. We may learn the consequences of that shortly.
Do you think this will have any implications for how the TLM will be handled by Rome in the near future? Seems like the outcome of this will have big ramifications for the TLM crowd as well.
Not directly, but yeah, people are obviously going to be paying attention to what happens here with a certain interest beyond that region of India where the dispute runs hottest.
I don't expect fistfights or the burning of effigies or the like. A lot of American Catholics, for example, will simply march resolutely and (relatively) quietly into schism with the SSPX. But the damage will be done, nevertheless.
Yeah that's my expectation as well. If (and that's a big if at this point) more restrictions are placed on the TLM, then SSPX will likely see a huge influx of people.
Don't take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot. That may be a problem the Vatican now has. They are saying "do this or face a schism" yet have not seem to have thought out what a schism would actually entail if 90% of the priests in the area refused compliance.
It appears there are increasing voices in the synod adopting the less insane approach of not creating a schism just to show you are in control. Hopefully they win out, yet I think even if the Synod made a choice, it would not be enough for rome to back down, as Francis has invested far too much of his authority in the issue.
You can't give a hecklers veto to the papal magisterium. Previous popes were smart and humble enough not to give an opportunity for said hecklers veto. We may learn the consequences of that shortly.
Do you think this will have any implications for how the TLM will be handled by Rome in the near future? Seems like the outcome of this will have big ramifications for the TLM crowd as well.
Not directly, but yeah, people are obviously going to be paying attention to what happens here with a certain interest beyond that region of India where the dispute runs hottest.
I don't expect fistfights or the burning of effigies or the like. A lot of American Catholics, for example, will simply march resolutely and (relatively) quietly into schism with the SSPX. But the damage will be done, nevertheless.
Yeah that's my expectation as well. If (and that's a big if at this point) more restrictions are placed on the TLM, then SSPX will likely see a huge influx of people.
So will the Eastern Catholics. That's what happened under the previous round of restrictions.