This was an amazing discussion thank you. I've often struggled with how I see permanent deacons used/lived. I think you did a nice job of pointing out that much of what they do can/should be done by laity, but there are places where clerics are needed and that brings graces with it. I'd be curious to learn more about how one can live two…
This was an amazing discussion thank you. I've often struggled with how I see permanent deacons used/lived. I think you did a nice job of pointing out that much of what they do can/should be done by laity, but there are places where clerics are needed and that brings graces with it. I'd be curious to learn more about how one can live two "all in" vocations to marriage and holy orders.
I think there's also room for improved collegiality between priests and deacons within a parish. My my pew, there appears to be a lot of friction/power plays between the two, enough that I would never want to be a deacon (among many other reasons)
For an example of how to live the two “all-in” vocations of marriage and holy orders, see your local Eastern Catholic Church. Many of them are led by married priests and deacons. Because grace builds upon nature (and does not obliterate it) a faithful married man who has proved to be a good father to his family is an excellent candidate to be a spiritual father to his community.
This was an amazing discussion thank you. I've often struggled with how I see permanent deacons used/lived. I think you did a nice job of pointing out that much of what they do can/should be done by laity, but there are places where clerics are needed and that brings graces with it. I'd be curious to learn more about how one can live two "all in" vocations to marriage and holy orders.
I think there's also room for improved collegiality between priests and deacons within a parish. My my pew, there appears to be a lot of friction/power plays between the two, enough that I would never want to be a deacon (among many other reasons)
For an example of how to live the two “all-in” vocations of marriage and holy orders, see your local Eastern Catholic Church. Many of them are led by married priests and deacons. Because grace builds upon nature (and does not obliterate it) a faithful married man who has proved to be a good father to his family is an excellent candidate to be a spiritual father to his community.