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I see all of this.

I think there is another less extreme option of doing away with some of the clearly ridiculous “hoops” from the current sac prep processes for baptism, Eucharist, and confirmation (as discussed, the service projects for confirmation, making parents repeat the baptism class for each successive child, etc). Of course there will always be issues as long as there are people making unreasonable demands on either side of the equation, which there always will be.

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Yeah the baptism class repetition would be a really easy one to dispense with. "Families that have participated in baptism class within the last 5 years are exempt" or something like that.

And if you restore the order and have confirmation a little younger and communion a little older than is the current standard, the community service naturally goes away because a 10-year-old can't really volunteer for much. And the ongoing faith formation after confirmation can incorporate some community service as a part of discerning what spiritual gifts came upon you/ were strengthened in your Confirmation.

I really do like the Denver/Manchester solution best.

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