In my view, “Traddies” represent a certain flavor of traditionally-minded individual. Certainly not all who attend TLM. Personally I would describe the term as describing someone more willing to trust their own informed-by-tradition concept of Catholicism over the current Church hierarchy’s. They may even be right in their critique… but …
In my view, “Traddies” represent a certain flavor of traditionally-minded individual. Certainly not all who attend TLM. Personally I would describe the term as describing someone more willing to trust their own informed-by-tradition concept of Catholicism over the current Church hierarchy’s. They may even be right in their critique… but they need to remain obedient. Obedience is a deeper tradition of the Church even than the traditions they hold most dear. “Christ was obedient unto death, even death on a Cross. Therefore God highly
exalted Him…” Perhaps forgetting that Christ’s obedience ended in His death, however, traddies seem to be justifying themselves as “martyrs” for resisting the guidance of their ‘modernist’ but legitimate Church leadership. And, yes, Vigano is very much a “traddie”
in this sense. Perhaps look up Taylor Marshall on YouTube to get up to speed.
Brendan, I'm glad to hear how you approach the matters separating traditionalism from these problematic figures. Yet, I have to say you are probably the only one I've ever seen doing that. Not that my experience is vast and broad, but from where I sit, being a traditionalist embraces all the weirdness this thread mentions.. Would that it would not be so.
May I ask to what extent that experience is online vs in person?
I have been going almost exclusively to the TLM for years. I’ve certainly met my fair share of nutty people and the types of traditionalists Jen and Joseph are talking about. But they are a minority in my experience.
I’ve also met my fair share of Novus Ordo Catholics that use contraception and think two men should be able to marry. The issue I have with Joseph’s comment is he uses the term “traddy” to make us “other” and lumps us all together. We ought to acknowledge that within different “groups” of the church there are different issues and levels of heterodoxy. I don’t think it’s accurate or fair to paint traditionalists as the biggest problem, and Joseph seems to constantly do that.
In my view, “Traddies” represent a certain flavor of traditionally-minded individual. Certainly not all who attend TLM. Personally I would describe the term as describing someone more willing to trust their own informed-by-tradition concept of Catholicism over the current Church hierarchy’s. They may even be right in their critique… but they need to remain obedient. Obedience is a deeper tradition of the Church even than the traditions they hold most dear. “Christ was obedient unto death, even death on a Cross. Therefore God highly
exalted Him…” Perhaps forgetting that Christ’s obedience ended in His death, however, traddies seem to be justifying themselves as “martyrs” for resisting the guidance of their ‘modernist’ but legitimate Church leadership. And, yes, Vigano is very much a “traddie”
in this sense. Perhaps look up Taylor Marshall on YouTube to get up to speed.
Oh I’m well familiar with Taylor Marshall and his nonsense.
I don’t care for the term, but maybe it’s just me.
Brendan, I'm glad to hear how you approach the matters separating traditionalism from these problematic figures. Yet, I have to say you are probably the only one I've ever seen doing that. Not that my experience is vast and broad, but from where I sit, being a traditionalist embraces all the weirdness this thread mentions.. Would that it would not be so.
May I ask to what extent that experience is online vs in person?
I have been going almost exclusively to the TLM for years. I’ve certainly met my fair share of nutty people and the types of traditionalists Jen and Joseph are talking about. But they are a minority in my experience.
I’ve also met my fair share of Novus Ordo Catholics that use contraception and think two men should be able to marry. The issue I have with Joseph’s comment is he uses the term “traddy” to make us “other” and lumps us all together. We ought to acknowledge that within different “groups” of the church there are different issues and levels of heterodoxy. I don’t think it’s accurate or fair to paint traditionalists as the biggest problem, and Joseph seems to constantly do that.
They are a minority, but they sure seem to like to hop on YouTube and make videos / blast messages…
Obedience is better than sacrifice 1 Sam 15:22