Again, lying is not the same as abuse and when I sign a subpoena handed to me does not mean I admit to committing anything wrong, I just acknowledge receiving the subpoena. As Mr. Karazamov noted, it is an injustice for Cardinal Cipriani to not know what he is accused of. Even the Sanhedrin and Pilate let Jesus Christ know what he was co…
Again, lying is not the same as abuse and when I sign a subpoena handed to me does not mean I admit to committing anything wrong, I just acknowledge receiving the subpoena. As Mr. Karazamov noted, it is an injustice for Cardinal Cipriani to not know what he is accused of. Even the Sanhedrin and Pilate let Jesus Christ know what he was convicted of, even if it was false.
All I would like is for the Pillar to put more detail into their reporting about Cardinal Cipriani. In their reporting on the Syro-Malabar Church controversy regarding the change in liturgy, the Pillar included a backstory about controversial real estate investments done by the former Major Archbishop that may play a part in why the conflict is so heated. Real estate and who the priest faces during Mass seems unrelated, but the Pillar rightfully took it into account.
Reporting about the Cipriani-Bergoglio feud in CELAM could be an important component of the story that good journalists should report on. It is like reporting about Trump being accused of financial crimes in a New York court and failing to report about any links between the prosecutors, the Biden administration, and the DNC.
Except that it isn’t. Other media sources now say that Cipriani has been accused, credibly, of sexual abuse. Had The Pillar focused on Argentinian clerical politics, it would have missed the real story while impinging upon the dignity of the Holy Father. I don’t know why you’re carrying water for Cipriani at this point.
What does "credibly accused" mean? You are innocent until proven guilty. Cardinal Pell was also "credibly accused" and found innocent. There was another Cardinal, Henryk Gulbinowicz of Wroclaw, Poland, who was "credibly accused" and sanctioned to not perform any public ministry. He just happened to be the most vehemently anti-Communist bishop in Poland.it turned out after his death that all the accusations came from men who were found in Polish Communist secret police archives to be agents who purposely made up stories which the Church investigators initially fell for. Like with Pell, it is the civil investigations that often reveal the truth. I hope Cardinal Cipriani has his day in court where rules of evidence will determine whether he is guilty or not. Nonetheless, while Cardinal Cipriani, a rival to the Pope, is penalized, Father Rupnik, who the Pope likes, is working without any restrictions in Slovenia after raping several religious sisters. Just seems suspicious.
It seems to me that your motivating theory here is corruption by the current pope. I see no evidence of this, relative to Cipriani. Ongoing discussion, therefore, strikes me as futile. Peace and blessings to you, though.
Again, lying is not the same as abuse and when I sign a subpoena handed to me does not mean I admit to committing anything wrong, I just acknowledge receiving the subpoena. As Mr. Karazamov noted, it is an injustice for Cardinal Cipriani to not know what he is accused of. Even the Sanhedrin and Pilate let Jesus Christ know what he was convicted of, even if it was false.
All I would like is for the Pillar to put more detail into their reporting about Cardinal Cipriani. In their reporting on the Syro-Malabar Church controversy regarding the change in liturgy, the Pillar included a backstory about controversial real estate investments done by the former Major Archbishop that may play a part in why the conflict is so heated. Real estate and who the priest faces during Mass seems unrelated, but the Pillar rightfully took it into account.
Reporting about the Cipriani-Bergoglio feud in CELAM could be an important component of the story that good journalists should report on. It is like reporting about Trump being accused of financial crimes in a New York court and failing to report about any links between the prosecutors, the Biden administration, and the DNC.
Except that it isn’t. Other media sources now say that Cipriani has been accused, credibly, of sexual abuse. Had The Pillar focused on Argentinian clerical politics, it would have missed the real story while impinging upon the dignity of the Holy Father. I don’t know why you’re carrying water for Cipriani at this point.
See: https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/261833/prominent-cardinal-denies-allegations-of-sexual-abuse-that-led-to-disciplinary-measures
What does "credibly accused" mean? You are innocent until proven guilty. Cardinal Pell was also "credibly accused" and found innocent. There was another Cardinal, Henryk Gulbinowicz of Wroclaw, Poland, who was "credibly accused" and sanctioned to not perform any public ministry. He just happened to be the most vehemently anti-Communist bishop in Poland.it turned out after his death that all the accusations came from men who were found in Polish Communist secret police archives to be agents who purposely made up stories which the Church investigators initially fell for. Like with Pell, it is the civil investigations that often reveal the truth. I hope Cardinal Cipriani has his day in court where rules of evidence will determine whether he is guilty or not. Nonetheless, while Cardinal Cipriani, a rival to the Pope, is penalized, Father Rupnik, who the Pope likes, is working without any restrictions in Slovenia after raping several religious sisters. Just seems suspicious.
It seems to me that your motivating theory here is corruption by the current pope. I see no evidence of this, relative to Cipriani. Ongoing discussion, therefore, strikes me as futile. Peace and blessings to you, though.