not sure about the other, but Darmaatmadja was appointed cardinal long before Francis. he's been cardinal since JP II. i remember because i used to live in Jakarta, his former archdiocese.
not sure about the other, but Darmaatmadja was appointed cardinal long before Francis. he's been cardinal since JP II. i remember because i used to live in Jakarta, his former archdiocese.
not sure about the other, but Darmaatmadja was appointed cardinal long before Francis. he's been cardinal since JP II. i remember because i used to live in Jakarta, his former archdiocese.