Can you tell me where you see the robust welcome? And my knowledge comes from those who are part of the process and from priests and laity in those archdioceses.
From the clergy and people of DC, from Holy Trinity to OLPH, and from St. Gabriel's to Sacred Heart to St. Benedict the Moor. All corners of the city. And thousands for the welcoming Mass, even though in the middle of a workday.
Apparently you are not familiar with the preternatural, statistical-sampling powers of our friend. HeтАЩs yet to find a single person unhappy with the DC appointment, despite personally interviewing thousands across the diocese.
Why do you continue to spread this blatant falsehood, Kurt? We've been down this road before -- your basis for claiming a "robust welcome and enthusiasm for McElroy in DC," implying support beyond a narrow few, has rightly and repeatedly been exposed as anecdotal at best and as utterly fabricated at worst. The unrefuted fact remains that the faithful in DC and beyond are sickened and outraged by McElroy and his ilk (Tobin, Farrell, Wuerl Gregory, etc.) -- McCarrick proteges/enablers/toadies/protectors/cronies/beneficiaries/apologists all. None of them -- including McElroy -- has been held to account for his involvement in one of the greatest scandals in the history of the Church, the fallout from which continues to damage her credibility and impair her witness. Yet silence and elevation have been their reward from the powers that be. So please, unless you have evidence that at some point McElroy renounced his membership in his McCarrick protection racket, spare us the spin.
Oh please. Every commentator claiming there is dislike in DC for McElroy goes mute when the question is raised as to which parishes this is coming from. His welcoming Mass was packed even though it was in the middle of a workday. From St. Thomas More in far Anacostia to Nativity Parish on the far other side of DC, Catholics have been enthusiastic and welcoming. You got nothing, absolutely nothing to support your assertion.
Maybe the issue is that Kurt doesnтАЩt know anyone in Md. bc a number of seminarians arenтАЩt thrilled. From whatever parishes I donтАЩt know I didnтАЩt ask. But folks from MD parishes - since youтАЩre so desperate for this bizarre name dropping cred - st James and st JeromeтАЩs and st Francis de sales and st marks and sacred heart and ascension and st BernadetteтАЩs and st Edward and st anslems and st MaryтАЩs - are also not thrilled. Oh and Ukrainian catholic parish over by shrine. Many of them who homeschool are actually very concerned.
So there is your list slash proof that there is no universal joyous welcome. Plenty of people are holding their breath. Stop gaslighting us.
Now was that so hard? I appreciate at long last someone giving us some idea as to where this claimed displeasure with the new archbishop is coming from. I don't doubt you know people who are displeased with Cardinal McElroy in these parishes and yes, just as you are less familiar than I am as to the parishes in DC, I not very acquainted with Southern Maryland and some of the suburban areas and I guess it is not a surprise that what displeasure there is comes from those areas. I do know people at St. James and St. Jerome who are pleased with the Cardinal, but admittedly one is on TPS as are many others in her parish and the other participates in liturgical dance in her parish. And my Ukrainian Catholic friends are very happy with the Cardinal. As for Ascension parish, from what I know, I do not doubt that you are right about the community there.
Still, with the record breaking participation in his welcoming Mass, there clearly is a lot (I never said universal) of warmth towards him. I suspect displeasure may come later when he has to make some tough decision, but for me, it currently seem quite limited.
So glad we donтАЩt surprise you in Maryland and can confirm тАЬwhat you knowтАЭ about us. Kurt your lack of charity in the comments section about ADW is frustrating in the extreme.
I find it amazing that you consider it a "lack of charity" that I don't join in making negative accusations about our brand new archbishop and I dare note that many faithful Catholics are welcoming him warmly.
Nope nothing to do with pointing out your own opinions on the new Cardinal and everything to do with first denying anyone disagrees and then accusing them of segregationist racism and concluding with тАЬoh those people not surprised by what THEY thinkтАЭ snark.
Maybe you genuinely donтАЩt hear how your posts read Kurt in which case itтАЩs not a lack of charity but a lack of prudence. But you definitely lack one of them in these comments section any time this diocese comes up.
I'm convinced the vast majority of Catholics in ADW start off with charity and welcoming towards the new Archbishop. I've never denied every last person felt that way and still don't understand the resentment at simply trying to discern where such displeasure comes from. But yes, your hostility towards such an inquiry does lead me to think it is from certain limited circles.
How would you know that? The robust welcome and enthusiasm for McElroy in DC would suggest that is not the case.
Can you tell me where you see the robust welcome? And my knowledge comes from those who are part of the process and from priests and laity in those archdioceses.
From the clergy and people of DC, from Holy Trinity to OLPH, and from St. Gabriel's to Sacred Heart to St. Benedict the Moor. All corners of the city. And thousands for the welcoming Mass, even though in the middle of a workday.
Apparently you are not familiar with the preternatural, statistical-sampling powers of our friend. HeтАЩs yet to find a single person unhappy with the DC appointment, despite personally interviewing thousands across the diocese.
He does have amazing powers, especially when the evidence is so strongly directed to an opposing opinion.
Why do you continue to spread this blatant falsehood, Kurt? We've been down this road before -- your basis for claiming a "robust welcome and enthusiasm for McElroy in DC," implying support beyond a narrow few, has rightly and repeatedly been exposed as anecdotal at best and as utterly fabricated at worst. The unrefuted fact remains that the faithful in DC and beyond are sickened and outraged by McElroy and his ilk (Tobin, Farrell, Wuerl Gregory, etc.) -- McCarrick proteges/enablers/toadies/protectors/cronies/beneficiaries/apologists all. None of them -- including McElroy -- has been held to account for his involvement in one of the greatest scandals in the history of the Church, the fallout from which continues to damage her credibility and impair her witness. Yet silence and elevation have been their reward from the powers that be. So please, unless you have evidence that at some point McElroy renounced his membership in his McCarrick protection racket, spare us the spin.
Oh please. Every commentator claiming there is dislike in DC for McElroy goes mute when the question is raised as to which parishes this is coming from. His welcoming Mass was packed even though it was in the middle of a workday. From St. Thomas More in far Anacostia to Nativity Parish on the far other side of DC, Catholics have been enthusiastic and welcoming. You got nothing, absolutely nothing to support your assertion.
Maybe the issue is that Kurt doesnтАЩt know anyone in Md. bc a number of seminarians arenтАЩt thrilled. From whatever parishes I donтАЩt know I didnтАЩt ask. But folks from MD parishes - since youтАЩre so desperate for this bizarre name dropping cred - st James and st JeromeтАЩs and st Francis de sales and st marks and sacred heart and ascension and st BernadetteтАЩs and st Edward and st anslems and st MaryтАЩs - are also not thrilled. Oh and Ukrainian catholic parish over by shrine. Many of them who homeschool are actually very concerned.
So there is your list slash proof that there is no universal joyous welcome. Plenty of people are holding their breath. Stop gaslighting us.
Now was that so hard? I appreciate at long last someone giving us some idea as to where this claimed displeasure with the new archbishop is coming from. I don't doubt you know people who are displeased with Cardinal McElroy in these parishes and yes, just as you are less familiar than I am as to the parishes in DC, I not very acquainted with Southern Maryland and some of the suburban areas and I guess it is not a surprise that what displeasure there is comes from those areas. I do know people at St. James and St. Jerome who are pleased with the Cardinal, but admittedly one is on TPS as are many others in her parish and the other participates in liturgical dance in her parish. And my Ukrainian Catholic friends are very happy with the Cardinal. As for Ascension parish, from what I know, I do not doubt that you are right about the community there.
Still, with the record breaking participation in his welcoming Mass, there clearly is a lot (I never said universal) of warmth towards him. I suspect displeasure may come later when he has to make some tough decision, but for me, it currently seem quite limited.
So glad we donтАЩt surprise you in Maryland and can confirm тАЬwhat you knowтАЭ about us. Kurt your lack of charity in the comments section about ADW is frustrating in the extreme.
I find it amazing that you consider it a "lack of charity" that I don't join in making negative accusations about our brand new archbishop and I dare note that many faithful Catholics are welcoming him warmly.
Nope nothing to do with pointing out your own opinions on the new Cardinal and everything to do with first denying anyone disagrees and then accusing them of segregationist racism and concluding with тАЬoh those people not surprised by what THEY thinkтАЭ snark.
Maybe you genuinely donтАЩt hear how your posts read Kurt in which case itтАЩs not a lack of charity but a lack of prudence. But you definitely lack one of them in these comments section any time this diocese comes up.
I'm convinced the vast majority of Catholics in ADW start off with charity and welcoming towards the new Archbishop. I've never denied every last person felt that way and still don't understand the resentment at simply trying to discern where such displeasure comes from. But yes, your hostility towards such an inquiry does lead me to think it is from certain limited circles.
And there it is ! Another racism accusation.
Have a great day Kurt IтАЩm very done here.