It's extremely frustrating to me the lack of consistency here. I have a video of a family member being baptized with the "we" formula. I contacted the parish priest where the baptism occurred and he assured me that I could and should count on the grace of the sacrament being conferred. Then we have other diocese going ahead and sayi…
It's extremely frustrating to me the lack of consistency here. I have a video of a family member being baptized with the "we" formula. I contacted the parish priest where the baptism occurred and he assured me that I could and should count on the grace of the sacrament being conferred. Then we have other diocese going ahead and saying they've got thousands of invalid baptisms and it all needs to be rectified.
Personally, I'd feel a lot better about this if there were a diocesan contact for this information. Parish priests are overworked. In a lot of cases (like mine), you've moved away and they have no idea who you are. Moreover, this is a diocesan issue. If there were invalid baptisms occurring at a place for an extended period of time, the invalidly baptized are going to spread all over the diocese. Some may even be priests now, who knows. I don't think a parish priest is going to have the bandwidth to track all that down on his own.
The parish priest was incorrect. You have evidence that your family member was invalidly baptized. According to the Vatican he or she has to be baptized “in forma absoluta”. Your current parish priest can do the baptism. The diocesan bishop where the invalid baptisms occurred should be notified because there are probably others in the same situation and as you said he has the resources to correct this issue. Here is the Vatican link https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/it/bollettino/pubblico/2020/08/06/0406/00923.html#rispostein
It's extremely frustrating to me the lack of consistency here. I have a video of a family member being baptized with the "we" formula. I contacted the parish priest where the baptism occurred and he assured me that I could and should count on the grace of the sacrament being conferred. Then we have other diocese going ahead and saying they've got thousands of invalid baptisms and it all needs to be rectified.
Personally, I'd feel a lot better about this if there were a diocesan contact for this information. Parish priests are overworked. In a lot of cases (like mine), you've moved away and they have no idea who you are. Moreover, this is a diocesan issue. If there were invalid baptisms occurring at a place for an extended period of time, the invalidly baptized are going to spread all over the diocese. Some may even be priests now, who knows. I don't think a parish priest is going to have the bandwidth to track all that down on his own.
The parish priest was incorrect. You have evidence that your family member was invalidly baptized. According to the Vatican he or she has to be baptized “in forma absoluta”. Your current parish priest can do the baptism. The diocesan bishop where the invalid baptisms occurred should be notified because there are probably others in the same situation and as you said he has the resources to correct this issue. Here is the Vatican link https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/it/bollettino/pubblico/2020/08/06/0406/00923.html#rispostein
I'm in the process of talking to their chancery. Sadly I'm not sure the person will seek valid baptism
That is sad. I hope your family member reconsiders. I will pray for you and your family.